Yet again, I am absolutely LOVING Hallmark’s new spin-off series entitled When Hope Calls which is streaming on Hallmark Movies Now in the U.S. and showing on Super Channel Heart & Home in Canada. When the character of Joe Moody popped up in the first episode, I immediately recognized the man playing that role (he has been in numerous Hallmark productions). Yes, I had to look up his name, but I doubt I ever will ever have to again. Recently, I had the honor of interviewing Jefferson Brown, and I am proud to present today one of the most entertaining and insightful interviews I have conducted in recent times from a genuinely gifted and kind artist. {Warning–Jefferson DOES have a sense of humor, and I only hope that it comes through in the written form.}
RH: Jefferson, it is so good to chat with you at last!
JB: Ruth, thank you for reaching out. And thank you for your patience as well. We just recently wrapped on When Hope Calls, and it’s been a busy time.
I saw that you wrapped. Our family is just loving When Hope Calls.
That’s good to hear.
As much as we love When Calls the Heart, this new show just has a different feel to it. My mom made the comment that When Hope Calls has more the feel of being in the country where When Calls the Heart is more in the city.
That’s a good way to put it, Ruth. And I wanted to say that I’m sorry we haven’t gotten to chat till now.
Oh, I understand completely. I am glad we can chat now so that I can promote When Hope Calls for the viewers. I’ve interviewed several people connected with the show. In fact, I recently posted an interview with Liam MacDonald.
Oh, yeah, he’s a great kid.
I’ve been following his career since he began working with Hallmark. It was fun to get to chat with him again since he’s growing up. I could hear how he sounded older and voice was deeper than the last time I chatted with him.
My voice has deepened too!
{laughs} Um, yes, I’m sure.
You know, it’s funny how some people will ask in interviews, “What are the similarities and differences between you and the character you play?” I often like to say, “Well, I’m not as tall. I play him a bit taller than I am normally.” Just to let people know I have the range to do that.
{laughing} Well, I can say that we are certainly glad your character did not leave Brookfield at the end of episode two.
You and I both, sister! {laughs} I was reading the script for the second episode, and I was like, “Where is this going?!” I had the pleasure of meeting Alfonso {Moreno}, the creator and writer of the show, when I first got there, and I thought I’d made a good impression. I started reading episode two, and I was like, “Oh, shoot! He’s not a big fan of mine!” But it worked out, and Joe got to stick around.
For which we were all very glad. Now, when I saw your character during the first episode, I knew right away that I recognized you. I did have to look up your name, but now I know who you are. And from what I have heard from the fans, everyone seems to be enjoying When Hope Calls right along with my family and me. I think the only complaint that I have heard is that not everyone has access to Hallmark Movies Now.
I think I noticed a little bit of that when I was looking at social media. I think there’s even a petition going around for Hallmark to put the show on their regular network. Of course, I’m just an actor on the show, so who knows what’s in the future for the show? Maybe they will rerun it on their regular channel or something like that after its initial run is done. My hope would be that everyone who wants to see When Hope Calls will have the opportunity to see it at some point. Here in Canada, it is airing on Super Channel Heart & Home, which is a small boutique cable channel that doesn’t come with some packages. So it makes it even more difficult here for everyone here to see it, but hopefully, it will become more readily available in the future. I just want everyone to be able to see this show and enjoy the story of When Hope Calls.
I know that digital programming has really changed the way we watch TV and movies in this day and age. I think it can be hard to switch over to that way of thinking sometimes.
I didn’t grow up with all this digital programming and streaming services.
I didn’t either. I didn’t even grow up with cable. I grew up with like ten channels and rabbit ears.
Yep, I know what you’re talking about.
I really have enjoyed getting to develop relationships with so many people in th film industry. For years, I’ve been supporting actors in Vancouver, but now there is more filming happening in Ontario too. And I just love Canadian actors. Nothing against LA actors or actors anywhere else in the world. But there is just something special about these Canadian actors. In fact, even the actors that I know down in LA, many of them originally came from Canada.
I know what you’re saying. Sometimes someone leaves the door open, and the Canadians just slip out of Canada and head down to LA.
I don’t know if it is just a difference in culture or what, but there is a different vibe that I notice in Canadian actors.
Well, what I believe is that what you put out there, bounces back to you…almost like a radar. I think if you enter into any country or town or room, you’ll get back what you vibrate out. I really think that you attract what you put out there. I think there’s a lot to be said about that. From what I’ve seen, a lot of people just want to be friendly, and I think that’s an important thing about being human. It’s just about being social and kind, at least in my opinion.
I think you might be right. Maybe the reason I have such a favorable opinion of Vancouver is that I have interacted with the film and TV community, and they have been so welcoming and supportive of me. And I tend to think it would be the same way in Ontario. And I would say that those positive interactions have colored my perception of Canada. Nothing against LA, but it is just so big and spread out.
Oh yeah, and there’s no real downtown core. I’ve been in LA for a few months at a time–not much lately after having been married, so it’s been quite a while since I’ve been down there. But when I was down there, I was fortunate enough to be surrounded by some great friends who introduced me to other great people in LA. I found that LA can be a very lonely place. When you’re an actor down there, you’re really trying to make it, and you’re busting your hump to do what you think you need to do to make it. When things are going your way, you feel like you’re pushing that rock up the hill and you can’t be diverted from your path. You often buy into this idea that you’ve got to put your blinders on, and that’s when you miss out on meeting great people that come your way. And of course, Vancouver and Toronto can both be that way too. People can be very business-oriented. Some people are focused solely on doing what they need to do, and they don’t want to be bothered so they can keep doing their thing. And you’d better not even LOOK at their thing! But at the same time, I guess I’ve been around long enough to feel like it’s certainly should be a lot less adversarial than it seems to be.
So I’m looking at your credits, and it does look like you’ve been doing this for quite a while.
I stepped on stage really for the first time in university. I went to a small school out on the east coast called Mount Allison University in New Brunswick. If you want to meet friendly people, you gotta go to the maritime. They’ll knock your socks off, and then they’ll help you find them. And then they’ll apologize. {laughs} I grew up there. When I was seven, we moved to Ontario. Then I went back out there for university. I took visual arts. I was gonna be an artist. I was gonna do my BFA there.
In my third year of university, up until that point, I had been trying new and different things so I could find out what worked for me. So before I started my third year, I decided I was gonna try the acting thing. We would put on an annual musical in the big convocation hall. That was like the big theater space on campus. I decided that if it was a show that sounded like something I wanted to do, I was gonna try out for that. And if not, we had a small theater space that put on more regular plays. But as luck would have it, the show we were doing was Gershwin’s Crazy For You. That was one of the few shows I had seen performed professionally in Toronto when I was in high school, and it was bar none the most entertaining night I’d ever had sitting in a chair. So I thought this was meant to be, and I auditioned for this musical. Thankfully, being a non-dancer and non-singer, I got the role of Lank Hawkins, who is not really the town bad guy, but…I mean, it’s a Gershwin musical. There’s no real bad guys. Sort of like a Hallmark universe when you think about it. But I fell in love with it right off the bat, and I thought, “Well, okay, I know what I’m doing from now on.”
I finished my degree. I had been playing club rugby, but I quit that my fourth year to focus on acting. I did another musical my fourth year and a couple of plays in the small theater space. Then I figured I’d move back to Toronto, and I thought I would be doing sitcoms. But it turns out they don’t shoot those in Toronto. At least they didn’t then. That was around the summer of ’99. That was a hard slog because I realized I didn’t actually know what I was doing there. So I took classes and did the work, and after a little while, I started to get a feel for what I was doing and how to do it. And I just kept plugging away at it.
Now, I have to say, you did something early on, and while I haven’t gotten to see this show–it’s hard to come by–you worked with one of my good friends. It was Sophie with Sebastian Spence.
Oh, Sebastian! You know, I saw him in a waiting room for an audition a couple of years ago. It was our chance to sort of catch up. He’s a lovely guy. In fact, I was just out with a couple of the actors from When Hope Calls…golfing with RJ Hatanaka and Drew Nelson, who plays Daniel. We were talking about life in Toronto and all the actors we know and Like. So I was just talking about Sophie. We were talking about Natalie Brown, who played the title role.
Oh, yes! I know her too. I sure hope one of these days they release the show. I would love to see it.
It was such a good show and a ton of fun to be on. Lots of great people involved with the show. Natalie, Sebastian, Sara Botsford, Amy Lalonde…just a ton of people involved with that show.
I know it’s difficult at times in the digital age when you feel like you have to get this service to get that movie or show. Or I have to subscribe to this to watch that. You can feel like you’re getting pulled in all sorts of different directions. But at the same time, there’s going to be that situation where they’re going to require more content, and there’s going to be stockrooms full of shows and movies that might get a second chance to find an audience.
I am sure I saw the episode of Murdoch Mysteries that you were on. We love that show.
I played Lincoln Prescott back in season seven. And now they’re filming their thirteenth season, which is a miracle!
I know! I am aware of this show’s humble beginnings, and look at them now! My family and I love the show. I have a sixteen-year-old daughter who will even sit and watch it with us.
So, Ruth, how is it having a sixteen-year-old daughter?
It’s actually wonderful. Which might sound crazy.
No, it doesn’t sound crazy. It sounds inspiring. I have a seven-year-old daughter, who I’m sure by the end of the week will be sixteen. And I’m hopeful and fearful! {laughs}
Well, I have to say I’ve been blessed. {And I began to detail just how wonderful my daughter is, which I skip for the purposes of this interview.} All I can say is that hopefully when your daughter is that age, she will make good choices and continue on the right path.
Oh, I think I’m just fearful because I don’t question her choices. I question mine! I have insecure tendencies when it comes to that as I do in other parts of my personal and professional life. I think I have a bit of a worrywart vein that works a little bit more overtime at times than I would like. I have to remind myself to relax sometimes.
One of the fun things to do sometimes with the actors I interview is to try to figure out what their first Hallmark production was. And I’m thinking The Christmas Parade may have been your first Hallmark movies.
No, it wasn’t. I think we could play trivia here and see who gets the right answers. The Christmas Parade was my first lead role, but I’m pretty sure my first Hallmark movie was 12 Men Of Christmas with Kristin Chenoweth.
Jefferson, I hate to break it to you, but that was not actually a Hallmark movie. That was a Lifetime movie.
Okay, you win. One for Ruth, and zero for Jefferson.
No, seriously, I wouldn’t expect you to know that movie wasn’t Hallmark. You live in Canada, and you don’t get the Hallmark Channel. So it can be hard to know which one is Hallmark and which one is not. So you are at a disadvantage. And what makes it even more confusing is that it may be a Lifetime or other network movie, but with Hallmark Movies Now, Hallmark can put it on their service and really confuse everyone even more. So, don’t worry. It doesn’t count against you. Your next memorable Hallmark movie was Valentine Ever After.
Oh, that was such a great cast! Eric {Johnson} and Autumn {Reeser} were awesome. And Eric Peterson played the old field man named George. But gosh, I had a lovely time on that one.
A very memorable movie for me. I interviewed Vanessa Matsui, and that was back in my early days of interviewing. So I have very fond memories of that movie. You know how it goes. Those early jobs–even if you weren’t at your best–hold a very special place in your heart.
Oh, yeah, there’s something to be said about those jobs and those moments in your life or career where you felt overwhelmed or you were questioning yourself like, “What have I got myself into?” And you find support and strength from those around you. It really does emboss that impression a little deeper. And you live with these relationships that come out of those trying times…not necessarily bad times…but times that challenge you as a person or an actor. And those people who are there for you during that time mean the world to you. I have friendships that go way back to the very beginning of my career because those are the people who were there for me to lean on when I needed support. And those people gave me a gentle push when I needed the bravery to do what needed to be done. It’s always exciting to think about the first time.
Now, I think I got to know who you were more in Love On A Limb.
Oh, that was a fun one too.
I tend to pay attention to movies a little bit closer when I’ve interviewed one of the people, and that was my first time to interview Ashley Williams
That makes sense. You have a bit of a personal relationship with those involved in the movie. I think Ashley and her husband did an excellent job with the story of that movie. It was great, and she is so fantastic. And then I had the opportunity to work with her again last year in Northern Lights of Christmas.
Yes, that movie made my top 10 Christmas movie list last year. And I have a connection with the author {Teri Wilson} of the book the movie was based on. That movie was in the works for quite a while. Teri got to visit the set too.
Was she happy with the movie?
Oh, yes! She loves when her books get made into Hallmark movies. She’s always okay with the changes. And now she’s one of Hallmark’s authors too.
I don’t think I got to meet her.
She said she was only there a day, and she didn’t even get to see the reindeer.
Oh, yeah. They probably weren’t going to come out of the trailer. They’re very like that. They are very Hollywood. Someone had walnuts in their kale salad, so they didn’t come out for days. And they’re surprisingly small. I was surprised. I was expecting them to be the size of elk. I think the camera makes them look taller, like Tom Cruise. {laughs}
Well, maybe we’re used to seeing them in these movies with Santa Claus and the reindeer are always portrayed as being giant reindeer who pull the sleigh. And all that is CGI. It’s not reality.
When you think about ‘Twas the Night Before Christmas, it says, “a tiny man pulled by eight tiny reindeer.” Maybe we are the ones who haven’t paying close enough attention to these details.
You have a point there.
But I have been so fortunate to be a part of these Hallmark productions. It is so great to heighten the escapist world of love and warmth and inclusiveness and this idea of finding family and love in the least expected places. It’s such a nice sort of escapist opportunity.
When I was working on Good Witch, in season two, I was driving home one day from set, and on the radio, they were reporting the terrorist attacks in Paris. And it just hit me like a thunderbolt, Ruth. This idea of why we do what we do. I will never say that one job or one occupation is better or more important than the other, but I realized at that moment that I was part of something that was offering escapism and an opportunity for those who tune in to check that stuff at the door. It can be a grind out there, and things can get pretty dark. People are going to experience some really hard times. But with Hallmark, you can put your feet up for thirty or ninety minutes and sit down and take a breath and lighten up. You know, what we’re doing is not all just a fairy tale. There are moments in our productions that may not occur in every life, but they are all based on human emotion and we all experience them. And at that moment, it just hit home that it’s just as important as anything else you might find on TV. Or it’s just that experience out there that is the idea of catching a break and taking a breather and sort of reconnecting with those you love.
And I am very much with you on that, Jefferson. I’m not saying I only watch Hallmark, but I tell you what. I love the content the network puts out for the very reasons you just mentioned. You can tune other things out, and you don’t have to worry about the content of the show or movie. When my daughter was young, that was a huge concern for me. I could watch Hallmark and not worry about her coming into the room and seeing something I didn’t want her to see. I’m glad you brought up Good Witch.
I remember my time fondly in Middleton. I think back on that time, and I would have loved to have been on it longer, but I am grateful for the time I had. The people who make that show are also wonderful. Craig Pryce and Jonathan Eskenas and all the producers are really great people.
And the show is still going! They’re going into their sixth season. I recognize many of your other credits, but some I haven’t seen yet–they’re on my watch list. But I saw you in Snowed-Inn Christmas. I’m good friends with Andrew Walker. In fact, that’s one of those movies that I think should have been a Hallmark movie. But it was Lifetime.
Really? I guess I’m not always sure what airs on Hallmark and what doesn’t. I know that my movies show on the W Network, and they buy content from both Lifetime and Hallmark, so I guess that’s what confuses me.
With Snowed-Inn Christmas, I remember reading that even Andrew thought it was going to be Hallmark.
I think that cat could have chemistry with a phone book. And people would tune in.
Andrew is incredible. He was one of the very first people I ever interviewed. And his compliment to me is something I have never forgotten. He said I organized his “ramblings” and made him sound good, and that has always stuck with me. In fact, because he said that, I regularly tell people I interview that I will make you sound better than you were!
Okay, that’s good to know!
I am all about making you look good even if I come off as being silly or whatever.
I’m not really good at social media. I’d love to be better. I’m not even on Instagram. I still see all this tweeting as…I try very hard to make it align with my sensibilities concerning self-aggrandizing or the idea of self-promotion. It’s sort of like one of those things that has power, and I feel the responsibility of wielding that responsibly; I just don’t do it well. And the unfortunate thing is now that when I’m up for a role and it’s between myself and another actor, they might say, “Okay, we like them both the same, but this guy has more followers, so…” And they go with the other guy.
That is the reality of it, Jefferson. It’s a shame, in a way, that it’s come to that. But those are the rules in today’s world. You either go with it and accept it or fight against it. And I do understand your struggles with social media. I’ve had to force myself to get over those feelings about it. And thankfully, I can be the one to promote you. You don’t have to worry about doing it yourself because I’ll do it for you with this interview. Another one of your movies I just watched is My Mother’s Split Personalities. I didn’t like your character from the beginning.
{laughs} Fair enough. A bit different.
You played your part well. And then I saw you in Designated Survivor too. That was my mom’s and my favorite show when it was on. However, I have not seen you in Slasher, and I probably won’t be seeing you in that show.
You know, this is the funny sort of experience I get to have. I have been fortunate enough to bounce around between all these different universes. I get to go out and do a bunch of films on one end of the dial, and I get to do some more on the other end of the dial. For an actor, it’s always exciting to flip switches. I get to play a nice guy, and then I get to play a guy who’s not really nice. It’s fun to have people say, “I didn’t know you could do that.” or “I never would have thought of you in that role, but then I saw it, and you did really well.”And for me, that is the spark of it. I get a kick out of hearing that. People are going to want to watch these different films for different reasons. I hope if someone is watching My Mom’s Split Personalities, I hope they don’t like my character! Then when they tune into When Hope Calls, I hope they like Joe because I love Joe. I want people to meet him. And I think you’re gonna find things out about Joe in the next few episodes that create a really nice depth to the character. Alfonso Moreno has created a character for me to play that I couldn’t be any more grateful to play. It’s an opportunity for me to play the guy I want to be, in a way. The guy that I think I am. Always at a detriment to himself, he cares for those who care for him. It’s nice when people respond and check in on Twitter. People have lots of nice things to say about Joe, and I take it to heart.
How cool it is that you get to play in so many genres. I watch Hallmark, but I do love a variety of things. Not horror, but thrillers are usually okay. And even independent films. I try to be pretty open. Much more open than I used to be.
I think there’s something to be said of the passion of a filmmaker, especially indie filmmakers. They make these films for no other reason than they make it with a passionate eye. They believe in these stories and they can be so inspiring. There’s truthfulness to this when somebody believes in the project so much that they are willing to go through so many permutations or hoops to finally get it to the point where it can be seen. That wouldn’t have happened if someone didn’t believe in the project so much. What I enjoy about these films so much is that they are human stories that are told with a purpose and a belief in itself or themselves. Those kinds of projects are usually very engrossing.
Oh, I adore indie films. There are some very special ones I have seen. Sure, there are some out there that I didn’t care for, but so many are good enough that you wish more of the general public could see the film.
Those great films are the ones you tell your friends about. And since you are somewhat of an opinion leader, it can become a responsibility for you to tell other people what you honestly think of these lesser-known films. It is great when you can suggest that someone watch something that may have been overlooked by the general population, and you have to go by your heart and stand by what you believe. If I have the opportunity to do an independent film that somebody likes, I sure hope they tell somebody else. And even those films that you might not care for are made with a purpose in mind. They may have a different perspective than yours or an interesting point of view that you’ve never thought of. So maybe I didn’t care for it, but I’m luckier and wiser at times for having seen it. I think it is just as important for us to know why we don’t like something as it is for us to know why we do like something.
I did notice an independent film in your credits that you co-produced called Masters Of Romance.
There is a project that I’ve never had the opportunity to see. It was a film that a group of people made with no money. It was a concept written by Yolanda Beasley. She was one of the actors in it, but she also wrote it, directed it, and was producing it. It was a real passion project for her. It was great to be asked to be a part of it. I enjoyed my time working on the film, but now, for whatever reason, it seems like it may not ever be released. I do not know what happened.
It says it might be released in February of 2020.
I think that’s been rolling over for a long time. You know, sometimes you do these things and…I have written screenplays that I thought would be made into a film, but they have just been gathering dust. I think in hindsight, the process of writing and getting a story out on paper can be cathartic. Sometimes these things come into the world in a state that they were meant to stay in, and they may never get to the point where everyone sees them on screen. I hope Yolanda is pleased with what she did and what she took on. Maybe it means that her next movie will be that much better because of the experience she got from making Masters Of Romance.
I’m with you there. And hopefully, she and other indie filmmakers will find positive people to help them produce and distribute these films. And not have people criticize and say what’s wrong with the film. Too many critics and others tend to knock down films and shows today.
Oh, yes, it’s like people try to knock them down with such flourish and rapier wit…almost as if they want to present themselves as the more commendable writer than those who haven’t put their image and words on screen to share with the world. It’s easy to just sit back and say the most disparaging things in a sort of venomous tone and defend it by saying, “Well, it’s truth.” I feel like we live in a world where if we’re not saying something bad about something, people think it’s strange.
I agree. And there is a way to say things without tearing someone apart. You may have to go about it a little bit differently. Sometimes, I soften my words or the words of others because in print, it doesn’t always sound as nice or flow as easily. I’m always concerned with what I say and what others say coming across the right way. So we can see you in When Hope Calls. There are three episodes already available with seven more on the way to make a total of ten episodes, right?
That is correct.
We’ll definitely enjoy these episodes and hope for a second season of When Hope Calls. Maybe even some more crossovers like they have done between When Hope Calls and When Calls the Heart.
I am definitely on board for all of that.
Anything else coming up that you can mention?
Actually, not yet, no. When Hope Calls is the thing, but I’m sure there will be more.
All that sounds great, Jefferson. Thank you for taking the time to chat with me today.
My pleasure, Ruth. And I hope that everyone really enjoys When Hope Calls.
In my three and a half years of interviewing numerous industry professionals, I have encountered a vast array of individuals who have shared their gifts and insights in a variety of ways. I am consistently amazed at how many incredible people there are in the world and especially, in this industry. Without question, I place Jefferson high on my list of “interesting people.” In our lengthy, entertaining chat, we traversed an enormous amount of territory, and we gamboled through all facets of life, art, and more. His humor was readily apparent from the outset of the chat; in fact, there are times I practically missed his well-timed, subtle humor. Jefferson may not be regarded as one of the uppermost Hallmark stars by the preponderance of the viewing public, but there is no doubt that he is a consummate professional who perpetually provides a well-developed characterization of any role he is given. Furthermore, viewers can count on witnessing absolute magic on-screen if his name is listed in the credits.
I hope that everyone who is able to will tune in to either Hallmark Movies Now or Super Chanel Heart & Home for the next seven episodes of When Hope Calls (a new episode drops every Friday night), and I am greatly anticipating the character arc for his beloved character, Joe Moody. (I’m thinking romance just might be in his future based on what I saw in episode three. Maybe Joe and the new nurse??) Additionally, if my readers are so inclined, I entreat you to visit his links below and consider following him on Twitter. (Maybe one day he will join Instagram??) I cannot think of another industry professional who possesses the drive, amiability, benevolence, and quiet determination of Jefferson Brown, and I hope to see him featured more prominently in other roles in the near and distant future. I’m grateful to Hallmark for introducing me to the phenomenon that Jefferson has become, and I hope that many Hearties and Hallmarkies will join me in supporting this unusually charming, decidedly humble, and exceptionally talented man!
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